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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2458120&quot;&gt;Samantha Mandzak&lt;/a&gt;.

Great question, Samantha.

It&#039;s interesting to me that the same task can be humanizing or dehumanizing depending on the teacher&#039;s pedagogy.

The Barbie Bungee task &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; ask students to do routine cognitive work, making measurements, filling out boxes, performing operations, etc. 

Does your implemenation of the task instead invite students to make novel contributions to the class&#039;s understanding of mathematics or the context? Does it make room for intuition and early ideas about math? Does it give students a chance to think about how they&#039;d make a confident prediction about the number of bands or does it prescribe a method which students will follow step-by-step? Different teachers of the barbie bungee task will answer this question in very different ways!

Here is &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dropbox.com/s/7paqeiwgw1qncb3/Barbie%20Act%20One%20w%20SFX-HD%201080p.mov?dl=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a resource I made that might support a humanizing introduction of the problem&lt;/a&gt;. I hope you&#039;ll let us know how the task goes for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2458120">Samantha Mandzak</a>.</p>
<p>Great question, Samantha.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me that the same task can be humanizing or dehumanizing depending on the teacher&#8217;s pedagogy.</p>
<p>The Barbie Bungee task <em>can</em> ask students to do routine cognitive work, making measurements, filling out boxes, performing operations, etc. </p>
<p>Does your implemenation of the task instead invite students to make novel contributions to the class&#8217;s understanding of mathematics or the context? Does it make room for intuition and early ideas about math? Does it give students a chance to think about how they&#8217;d make a confident prediction about the number of bands or does it prescribe a method which students will follow step-by-step? Different teachers of the barbie bungee task will answer this question in very different ways!</p>
<p>Here is <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/7paqeiwgw1qncb3/Barbie%20Act%20One%20w%20SFX-HD%201080p.mov?dl=0" rel="nofollow">a resource I made that might support a humanizing introduction of the problem</a>. I hope you&#8217;ll let us know how the task goes for you.</p>
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		By: sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456967&quot;&gt;Garth&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you so much. Another aspect is to think about those students during their first years. I don&#039;t know about you but I would be an absolute mess. Those students would be their guinea pigs for the year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456967">Garth</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you so much. Another aspect is to think about those students during their first years. I don&#8217;t know about you but I would be an absolute mess. Those students would be their guinea pigs for the year.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456889&quot;&gt;Donovan T Baarda&lt;/a&gt;.

Why do you think teachers that never show you how to do anything and give you gentle hints is so effective? A past teacher I had in college followed that method and all it did was waste time and frustrate everyone especially when she moved on when some people still didn&#039;t understand what was going on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456889">Donovan T Baarda</a>.</p>
<p>Why do you think teachers that never show you how to do anything and give you gentle hints is so effective? A past teacher I had in college followed that method and all it did was waste time and frustrate everyone especially when she moved on when some people still didn&#8217;t understand what was going on.</p>
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		By: Samantha Mandzak		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could you maybe provide more examples. I really loved the brick idea! In class right now we are going over a lesson that I could use in my classroom. We are working on collecting data and finding the best fit line using rubber bands and bungee jumping a barbie from an elevated surface. Would this be an example? Thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you maybe provide more examples. I really loved the brick idea! In class right now we are going over a lesson that I could use in my classroom. We are working on collecting data and finding the best fit line using rubber bands and bungee jumping a barbie from an elevated surface. Would this be an example? Thank you</p>
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		By: Philip Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a compelling article, one that hits close to home.  I have a BS in math and have taught for the past 14 years.  That degree and knowledge has, as you said Dan, served me well, in developing into an quality teacher.  However, once I started to &quot;teach students,&quot; I went from a good teacher to one that really had different outcomes for students.   The following isn&#039;t a boast, but a goal.  I&#039;ve had 14 of the 23 A-stars awarded for Cambridge IGCSE in the nation over the past 7 years, and only have had 3 students not pass.  The average passing rate in the nation is only around 18% of students.  I teach in a rural, title 1 school, where most families do not have a single member that attended college.  There is absolutely no reason that other teachers couldn&#039;t have results similar to mine.

Over the past few years I have tried to help other teachers, similar to those mentioned in this article, develop into better math teachers.  I&#039;ve tried to support their mathematical understanding, and also help them to develop better questioning techniques.  I&#039;ve become a Cambridge Math Teacher Trainer, been department head, held tutoring sessions for teachers, and run workshops at MEAD (where you&#039;ll be the keynote speaker this year!).  

One of the recurring hurdles these teachers face is confidence.  They don&#039;t really understand the math and they often lack the confidence to execute things like you mentioned with the pile of bricks.  That lack of confidence isn&#039;t limited to just teachers that don&#039;t know the math well.  New teachers have a terribly difficult time because it is often against what is seen as best practice.  

The support and focus from administration and school districts continues to be on resources and curriculum, not instructional techniques.  So unless these teachers are mighty resources, and perhaps also willing to fight the man (stand up to administrative pressure), it is unlikely their students will realize successful outcomes.

This has perhaps been a tangential rant, I had a lot to get off of my chest, but here&#039;s my conclusion.  I think to move forward in the direction you are promoting (and I&#039;m 100% on board), we need to educate the gate-keepers of education about what good math instruction, especially grades 6 - 12, is and what it is not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a compelling article, one that hits close to home.  I have a BS in math and have taught for the past 14 years.  That degree and knowledge has, as you said Dan, served me well, in developing into an quality teacher.  However, once I started to &#8220;teach students,&#8221; I went from a good teacher to one that really had different outcomes for students.   The following isn&#8217;t a boast, but a goal.  I&#8217;ve had 14 of the 23 A-stars awarded for Cambridge IGCSE in the nation over the past 7 years, and only have had 3 students not pass.  The average passing rate in the nation is only around 18% of students.  I teach in a rural, title 1 school, where most families do not have a single member that attended college.  There is absolutely no reason that other teachers couldn&#8217;t have results similar to mine.</p>
<p>Over the past few years I have tried to help other teachers, similar to those mentioned in this article, develop into better math teachers.  I&#8217;ve tried to support their mathematical understanding, and also help them to develop better questioning techniques.  I&#8217;ve become a Cambridge Math Teacher Trainer, been department head, held tutoring sessions for teachers, and run workshops at MEAD (where you&#8217;ll be the keynote speaker this year!).  </p>
<p>One of the recurring hurdles these teachers face is confidence.  They don&#8217;t really understand the math and they often lack the confidence to execute things like you mentioned with the pile of bricks.  That lack of confidence isn&#8217;t limited to just teachers that don&#8217;t know the math well.  New teachers have a terribly difficult time because it is often against what is seen as best practice.  </p>
<p>The support and focus from administration and school districts continues to be on resources and curriculum, not instructional techniques.  So unless these teachers are mighty resources, and perhaps also willing to fight the man (stand up to administrative pressure), it is unlikely their students will realize successful outcomes.</p>
<p>This has perhaps been a tangential rant, I had a lot to get off of my chest, but here&#8217;s my conclusion.  I think to move forward in the direction you are promoting (and I&#8217;m 100% on board), we need to educate the gate-keepers of education about what good math instruction, especially grades 6 &#8211; 12, is and what it is not.</p>
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		By: Daniel Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Dan,
Talking about math and humanities.  Thought you might find this article of interest: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027719300927]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,<br />
Talking about math and humanities.  Thought you might find this article of interest: <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027719300927" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027719300927</a></p>
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		By: Twitter Tasting Menu &#8211; October 2019 &#8211; Elementary Mathematics &#8211; Round Rock ISD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Brian Rock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a veteran social studies teacher, I definitely feel their dread. Even though I love math and I&#039;ve helped students out with their work from time to time, I would feel totally inadequate in terms of creating and sequencing activities to help students learn.

But to your point that math should be taught like the humanities, I find that interesting. We struggle with the same debate in social studies to some extent, and there are plenty of classroom teachers who think that history and historical facts have some kind of intrinsic value. But whether it&#039;s math or social studies, we ought to be teaching those discrete, objective things so that they can use them to think about the world in new ways. This reminds me of one of my favorite ideas from Paulo Freire - you learn to read the word in order to read the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a veteran social studies teacher, I definitely feel their dread. Even though I love math and I&#8217;ve helped students out with their work from time to time, I would feel totally inadequate in terms of creating and sequencing activities to help students learn.</p>
<p>But to your point that math should be taught like the humanities, I find that interesting. We struggle with the same debate in social studies to some extent, and there are plenty of classroom teachers who think that history and historical facts have some kind of intrinsic value. But whether it&#8217;s math or social studies, we ought to be teaching those discrete, objective things so that they can use them to think about the world in new ways. This reminds me of one of my favorite ideas from Paulo Freire &#8211; you learn to read the word in order to read the world.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2019 03:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456881&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

It might be helpful for us to think about the humanity of an educational experience as a continuous variable rather than binary. A binary variable invites us to find exceptions and try to push an experience from one category to the other. What I&#039;m saying is that both the textbook activity on compound prisms and the recitation of facts and dates invites a much narrower range of expression from a student than the counterexamples I&#039;m offering. My goal isn&#039;t to justify the former experience as &quot;not really all that bad,&quot; but to ask &quot;how can I broaden the expression as much as possible here?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456881">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>It might be helpful for us to think about the humanity of an educational experience as a continuous variable rather than binary. A binary variable invites us to find exceptions and try to push an experience from one category to the other. What I&#8217;m saying is that both the textbook activity on compound prisms and the recitation of facts and dates invites a much narrower range of expression from a student than the counterexamples I&#8217;m offering. My goal isn&#8217;t to justify the former experience as &#8220;not really all that bad,&#8221; but to ask &#8220;how can I broaden the expression as much as possible here?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2019 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456869&quot;&gt;Jackie Palmquist&lt;/a&gt;.

Beautiful story, Jackie. I hope you&#039;ve had a similar effect on your partner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2019/humanizing-math-class-means-teaching-math-like-the-humanities/#comment-2456869">Jackie Palmquist</a>.</p>
<p>Beautiful story, Jackie. I hope you&#8217;ve had a similar effect on your partner.</p>
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