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		By: Scott King		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461431&quot;&gt;Aimee&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps &quot;currency&quot; is a slightly better word than &quot;money&quot;

I&#039;ve not thought of it in these terms before.  I usually think of it in improv comedy terms (note: I&#039;ve never done improv, I just know this idea).  I try and use the &quot;Yes, and...&quot; principle as much as possible, but especially for the &quot;currency&quot; I want to encourage.  We gather mathematical thoughts and then explore the ones that take us where I know we need to go.  I still try to validate all of them.  All mathematical thinking, especially by students, has some merit.  We are just limited by time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461431">Aimee</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps &#8220;currency&#8221; is a slightly better word than &#8220;money&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not thought of it in these terms before.  I usually think of it in improv comedy terms (note: I&#8217;ve never done improv, I just know this idea).  I try and use the &#8220;Yes, and&#8230;&#8221; principle as much as possible, but especially for the &#8220;currency&#8221; I want to encourage.  We gather mathematical thoughts and then explore the ones that take us where I know we need to go.  I still try to validate all of them.  All mathematical thinking, especially by students, has some merit.  We are just limited by time.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461438&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

 Welcome back to the field. Sorry it&#039;s kind of a mess right now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461438">Derek</a>.</p>
<p> Welcome back to the field. Sorry it&#8217;s kind of a mess right now!</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have just returned to teaching after many years away and I am currently taking an additional qualifications course.  I had never heard of Dan Meyer until a couple of weeks ago.  I watched a couple of his videos from a few years ago - and what he was preaching then is still true today.  Unfortunately - for various reasons - it is difficult to get these &quot;new&quot; ideas into the classroom learning environment.

Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just returned to teaching after many years away and I am currently taking an additional qualifications course.  I had never heard of Dan Meyer until a couple of weeks ago.  I watched a couple of his videos from a few years ago &#8211; and what he was preaching then is still true today.  Unfortunately &#8211; for various reasons &#8211; it is difficult to get these &#8220;new&#8221; ideas into the classroom learning environment.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		By: Aimee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The concept of teachers deciding what is &quot;money&quot; in their classroom is a traditional approach to teaching based on the traditional structure of the curriculum that guides educators which tells educators what is &quot;money&quot; which in the past has largely been based on specific subject matter content. 

The great thing is that even though the content may be important, it doesn&#039;t mean there aren&#039;t multiple ways of meaningfully engaging students and different learning routes students can take to arrive at the same understanding. These approaches to teaching are more progressive but are often was is considered &quot;good teaching&quot; because it is often more engaging and personalized for students.

One question that arises is, what can teachers do to empower students to determine what is considered valuable in the classroom while also maintaining roots in the curriculum? 

This is an approach I have been hoping to dabble with more in my own classroom and I would love to hear others&#039; ideas/opinions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of teachers deciding what is &#8220;money&#8221; in their classroom is a traditional approach to teaching based on the traditional structure of the curriculum that guides educators which tells educators what is &#8220;money&#8221; which in the past has largely been based on specific subject matter content. </p>
<p>The great thing is that even though the content may be important, it doesn&#8217;t mean there aren&#8217;t multiple ways of meaningfully engaging students and different learning routes students can take to arrive at the same understanding. These approaches to teaching are more progressive but are often was is considered &#8220;good teaching&#8221; because it is often more engaging and personalized for students.</p>
<p>One question that arises is, what can teachers do to empower students to determine what is considered valuable in the classroom while also maintaining roots in the curriculum? </p>
<p>This is an approach I have been hoping to dabble with more in my own classroom and I would love to hear others&#8217; ideas/opinions.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting that you chose money for your analogy.

What I have learned from teaching is that all good teaching is socialist. Valuing everyone&#039;s contribution in the classroom equally is no different from paying Jeff Bezos and an Amazon warehouse worker the same salary.

So how do you convince capitalists to teach this way? When the system is clearly set up to value certain students/ideas more than others with magnet schools, college admissions, even just the existence of grades. Maybe you can convince middle schoolers, but by high school they are pretty jaded and understand the pre-existing hierarchy. A number on a report card means a lot more to them (and especially the adults at home) than a classroom discussion. 

This is not to say that it&#039;s not a great idea--clearly it is. But for some reason spreading the money around to everyone equally has not caught on in either our schools or our society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you chose money for your analogy.</p>
<p>What I have learned from teaching is that all good teaching is socialist. Valuing everyone&#8217;s contribution in the classroom equally is no different from paying Jeff Bezos and an Amazon warehouse worker the same salary.</p>
<p>So how do you convince capitalists to teach this way? When the system is clearly set up to value certain students/ideas more than others with magnet schools, college admissions, even just the existence of grades. Maybe you can convince middle schoolers, but by high school they are pretty jaded and understand the pre-existing hierarchy. A number on a report card means a lot more to them (and especially the adults at home) than a classroom discussion. </p>
<p>This is not to say that it&#8217;s not a great idea&#8211;clearly it is. But for some reason spreading the money around to everyone equally has not caught on in either our schools or our society.</p>
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		By: Sharing Diigo Links and Resources (weekly) &#124; Another EducatorAl Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Dick Fuller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t teach. I am trying to figure out why mathematics, as taught, results in so much alienation and failure. I have experienced both, so there is a possibility I can approach the problem humanly. To keep this short, let pretend to be  a wise one.

Mathematics would not exist without the human mind. It is a matter of what a human mind can understand. On the other hand it is taught as problems for tangibly processing what senses provide: more or less the  numerical and symbolic processing  a computer can do better.
Do young children have a mind for a mental life. I maintain is&#039;s a no-trainer. Can they construct a mental picture of what multiplication does in order to formulate their own problem? 
Do they realize that Dan&#039;s animation is the result of a human artifact made by someone just like them, just a little older. It is likely just a short list of instructions to a computer that is executing them over and over, In n a sense nothing is changing,. 
The programmer who made it understands the abstraction of a simple language. I could not find out if this Desmos code is open sourced, if it the students can see the result]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t teach. I am trying to figure out why mathematics, as taught, results in so much alienation and failure. I have experienced both, so there is a possibility I can approach the problem humanly. To keep this short, let pretend to be  a wise one.</p>
<p>Mathematics would not exist without the human mind. It is a matter of what a human mind can understand. On the other hand it is taught as problems for tangibly processing what senses provide: more or less the  numerical and symbolic processing  a computer can do better.<br />
Do young children have a mind for a mental life. I maintain is&#8217;s a no-trainer. Can they construct a mental picture of what multiplication does in order to formulate their own problem?<br />
Do they realize that Dan&#8217;s animation is the result of a human artifact made by someone just like them, just a little older. It is likely just a short list of instructions to a computer that is executing them over and over, In n a sense nothing is changing,.<br />
The programmer who made it understands the abstraction of a simple language. I could not find out if this Desmos code is open sourced, if it the students can see the result</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 03:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461344&quot;&gt;Michael P Goldenberg&lt;/a&gt;.

There are some parallels &lt;a href=&quot;/2019/it-isnt-enough-to-love-kids-or-math/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; but this is mostly a new metaphor I&#039;m playing with.

Students &lt;em&gt;do and should&lt;/em&gt; also determine what the class values. That&#039;s a super important point and I&#039;m glad you raised it. By virtue of their status / role / expertise (perceived or real) I think teachers will always have a role to play in assigning competence / status to students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461344">Michael P Goldenberg</a>.</p>
<p>There are some parallels <a href="/2019/it-isnt-enough-to-love-kids-or-math/">here</a> but this is mostly a new metaphor I&#8217;m playing with.</p>
<p>Students <em>do and should</em> also determine what the class values. That&#8217;s a super important point and I&#8217;m glad you raised it. By virtue of their status / role / expertise (perceived or real) I think teachers will always have a role to play in assigning competence / status to students.</p>
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		By: Dan Meyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 03:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461347&quot;&gt;Mireille Geha&lt;/a&gt;.

All great questions! I have actually lost classes more quickly when I have left comments like &quot;drunk shape&quot; &lt;em&gt;unacknowledged&lt;/em&gt; rather than when &lt;em&gt;acknowledge&lt;/em&gt; them. When I acknowledge them, I can turn them into money (as it were) and then move with the same enthusiasm to another response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2020/teachers-decide-whats-money/#comment-2461347">Mireille Geha</a>.</p>
<p>All great questions! I have actually lost classes more quickly when I have left comments like &#8220;drunk shape&#8221; <em>unacknowledged</em> rather than when <em>acknowledge</em> them. When I acknowledge them, I can turn them into money (as it were) and then move with the same enthusiasm to another response.</p>
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		By: Mireille Geha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That’s interesting! I catch myself not saying (with words or body language) a discouraging thing when a student says something completely off the track to the discussion. What did you tell “your students” when they answered with discussions around proportionality ie not as year 7 students? Did you completely ignore their answer and turned to hear others? Did you write/type all the answers? How can I show students that I heard their answer without allowing the discussion to veer in that direction? Or is “hearing” it not enough? How can I not discourage them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s interesting! I catch myself not saying (with words or body language) a discouraging thing when a student says something completely off the track to the discussion. What did you tell “your students” when they answered with discussions around proportionality ie not as year 7 students? Did you completely ignore their answer and turned to hear others? Did you write/type all the answers? How can I show students that I heard their answer without allowing the discussion to veer in that direction? Or is “hearing” it not enough? How can I not discourage them?</p>
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