Dan Meyer

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Asking Interesting, Natural-Seeming Questions

Here is a picture of a fountain from Pearson’s Common Core Geometry iBook. (Full disclosure: I consult with Pearson.)

Given ten tries, you’d never guess the question connected to that image: “What is the measure of the arc of the circular basin of the fountain that will be in the photograph?”

Same with this line from problem 23 on page 351:

Campers often use a “bear bag” at night to avoid attracting animals to their food supply.

It is followed by:

Are angle one and the given angle alternate interior angles, same-side interior angles or corresponding angles?

Not only will those questions fail to interest many of my students but they’re also unnatural and disconnected from the context to which they are attached. The fountain doesn’t want that question. The bear bag has no use for its question. Students notice that disconnect. Some have fully internalized that disconnect and concluded that math is some alien, otherworldly thing they’ll survive and then forget as quickly as possible.

What Do We Do?

Not this:

Over at Dan’s site people have been discussing these last set of questions and we find, naturally, Dan promoting his brand of “Make the prompt scream the question you are looking for” …

I hear it too often in emails, tweets, and conversations after conference sessions:

“I asked them what questions they had and they asked the one I was looking for!”

Just ask it.

“It took some time but I prompted them a little and they asked the question I wanted them to focus on!”

Just ask it.

“They guessed the question I wanted them to ask!”

Just ask it.

Just ask the question. My point has never been that you should never ask questions rather that you should ask questions with some certainty they will be interesting and seem natural to your students.

How can you tell in advance that a question will be interesting or seem natural to your students? Ideally, I’d have a room full of students I could run ideas past – an on-call focus group. I’d punch a button and they’d snap to attention. Then I’d introduce a context and a question and they’d give me a thumbs up or down. (Standard disclaimer: math is a context.) Maybe they’d suggest other, more interesting questions. That would be great – all of it – but I don’t have those students on call. I have you guys instead, and that’s way, way better than nothing.

But just because the football player runs through tires on the scrimmage field doesn’t mean he runs through tires on game day. See? 101questions is our scrimmage field. It isn’t the game itself.

BTW: Avery Pickford has some smart writing along these same lines.

Previously: Unnatural Currents

Featured Comment

Mylene:

Inquiry-based science teaching sometimes gets bogged down in similar games of “guess what the teacher wants you to say.”  Almost as frustrating as known-answer questions are these, which I shall start calling “known-question answers.”

Five Favorites — 101Questions [5/5/12]

People have asked why they can’t add questions to these links. The only place you can ask questions (or skip them, if you’re bored) is on the homepage where they’re stripped of the author’s name, the author’s questions, and everyone else’s questions, all of which have the potential to bias your response. You might disagree with that call but it was intentional, not an oversight.

  • Big Marshmallow, Christopher Danielson. Five out of six questions (as of this writing) concern calories. Coincidence? What could have been? (PS. 100% perplexity as of this writing also. Strong work, Mister Vice President.)
  • Bart Acceleration, Tim Erickson. The placement of the beam adds an interesting frame of reference to the video. I’d like to see the timer saved for later, of course.
  • Big and Small Cookies, John Golden. The photo’s blurry and already cluttered up with abstraction but I do like the question a great deal, “Is it a better deal to buy the three smaller cookies or the larger one?” Because the area of a circle is a strange thing.
  • Danish Clog, Fawn Nguyen. I wouldn’t find this nearly as perplexing without the sandal in the clog. A little bit of whimsy goes a long way with me.
  • Wheat and Chessboard, Carl Malartre. This is a task I’ve only ever seen posed verbally. The visual, for me, illustrates the fact that, my word, square 64 is going to have a ton of wheat on it.

Plus my own listings this week, which include some older material:

Let me run an idea by you: once we get these things tagged up by standard or objective or keyword or whatever, then you have ready-made gallery problem sets. ie. Rather than inflicting my own fascination with absurd gummi bears on a kid who doesn’t care about them, I can send her over to 101questions and she can pick out a problem that interests her and use it to demonstrate competence. Student-centered paradise? Logistical nightmare? Both?

[3ACTS] May 2012 Tasks

  • Pizza Doubler. The initial problem gives specific dimensions, but the momentum of the problem should be towards a general argument.
  • Coin Carpet. If you’re going to carpet your floors with any kind of US bill, obviously one-dollar bills get you the same area for the lowest price. But what about coins? If I had a classroom, this problem would run all year. I’d put a bounty on the best coin from around the world. (Something like the slope challenge.) “You found some saucer-sized coin from some obscure island with very favorable exchange rates? Pin the picture to the wall, kid. Nice work.”
  • Leaky Faucet. I needed this one for PD purposes. As an exercise in rates goes, it’s fairly generic, though I wouldn’t have guessed anywhere close to the answer.
  • Fry’s Bank. Timon Piccini posted this video to 101qs.com and I wanted to build a sequel around it.

Featured Comment

Dan Henrikson:

My students were amazed by the Fry’s Bank problem. My favorite part was when a student left out a zero and accidentally calculated the balance after 100 years. $8 after 100 years, but 4 billion dollars after 1,000 years. I had to try it on a different calculator to make sure that his calculator wasn’t broken.

Five Favorites — 101Questions [4/28/12]

  • Locked iPad, Jeff. I love that math makes large, incomprehensible numbers a little more comprehensible. How many days, weeks, or years will I have to wait to try another passcode?
  • Bake House Piano Drop 2012, Jeffrey Kirby. They really only had one shot at this. No do-overs. So how did they calculate the position of the ground piano for impact with the flying piano?
  • When you wish upon a star …, Statler Hilton. I want to see what this looked like from the air. This had to be carefully laid-out and diagrammed.
  • Giant Domino, Ian Frame. A gaggle of these popped up after my NCTM talk yesterday (during which I plugged 101questions). These enormous objects litter a small acreage surrounding the Philadelphia convention center, inspiring a pile of interesting questions related to scale. “How tall is the person who is playing with this domino?” will get you first-order similarity. “How heavy is he?” gets you the third order.
  • File Cabinet – Act 1, Andrew Stadel. Crazy bananas. Thankfully, only one of us has to do this for all of us to use it and, lucky for him, he only has to do it once.

Also interesting:

  • Floor 13 please, Luke Walsh. I had a back-and-forth with Karim Ani over this first act. As of this writing, all four of Luke Walsh’s “students” want to know how heavy the average person is. Meanwhile, Walsh asks his students, “What is the area in square feet of this elevator?” That difference interests me. It seems, perhaps, typical of the student-teacher relationship where I can always override my students’ preference by the power vested in me as a teacher, a grown-up, and a person who is several feet taller than they are. All other characteristics of a task being equal, though, I’d rather its question be something that occurs naturally to them or that seems natural when I pose it. 101questions helps me locate those natural-seeming questions.

Plus my own listing:

  • Portal Laser. I uh got kinda heavy into Portal this last week. Both of them.